Posted by jim on 12/29/2004, 4:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Depends on the rules"
Like you said, it takes a lot of hard work. Yet a good slap up the side of the head, like a NDE or major drug trip can change behavior in a flash.
A carefully execueted initiation that incorporates the two can producea new person... literally reborn.
That technique has been employed by all the religions and secret societies to collect loyal followers.
jim